Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

04/06/2006 08:30 AM Senate JUDICIARY


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 272 CARD ROOMS & OPERATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= HB 318 LIMITATION ON EMINENT DOMAIN
Heard & Held
= HB 400 CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS
Moved SCS CSHB 400(JUD) Out of Committee
                 HB 272-CARD ROOMS & OPERATIONS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:52:18 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  RALPH SEEKINS  announced CSHB  272(FIN)  AM to  be up  for                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL O'HARE,  Staff to Representative  Pete Kott,  advised the                                                               
committee  of  a  committee substitute  (CS)  identified  as  24-                                                               
LS0916\L. The changes are as follows:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, line 8 allows for a  maximum fee or rake a licensed owner                                                               
may collect from players to be up to $4.00 per game.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, line  13 adds that a municipality may  regulate the hours                                                               
of operation and other matters  relating to card rooms within the                                                               
municipality.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Page  2, starting  at line  28 after  "department" adds  that the                                                               
licensed  owner shall  obtain a  signed  self determined  pre-set                                                               
loss limit from the player before selling tokens or chips.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Page 8, line  23 says an owner's license may  not be transferred,                                                               
sold, or purchased. It is a non-transferable license.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Page 9,  line 9 allows  for licenses to  be issued for  card room                                                               
operations  in  a  municipality   that  has  a  municipal  police                                                               
department  if  the  municipality   has  adopted  the  ordinance,                                                               
ratified by  at least 60  percent of the municipal  voters voting                                                               
to authorize card  rooms and card games in  that municipality. If                                                               
the population of the municipality  is less than 50,000, only one                                                               
owner's  license  may be  issued  in  that municipality.  If  the                                                               
population  of the  municipality  is 50,000  or  more, the  total                                                               
number  of  owner's licenses  issued  may  not exceed  the  total                                                               
population divided by 50,000.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Page 11, line  7 subsection (b) is added as  a factor to consider                                                               
in  granting an  owner's license,  the department  shall make  an                                                               
application  for   an  owner's   license  available   for  public                                                               
inspection and  copying, and shall  invite the public  comment on                                                               
an application and consider all  comments received in determining                                                               
whether to grant the owner's license.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Page  11, line  11 adds  subsection (c)  in order  to give  local                                                               
input to  the department in  order to  determine who would  get a                                                               
license in the case of more than one entity vying for a permit.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:56:23 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CHARLIE HUGGINS  moved version L as  the working document                                                               
before the committee. Hearing no objections, the motion carried.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'HARE submitted answers to  questions that the committee had                                                               
in  the  previous bill  hearing.  He  added the  document  titled                                                               
Question to the  Sponsor of HB 272 Posed by  the Senate Judiciary                                                             
Committee Dated 03/29/2006 to the committee packet.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:01:25 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR SEEKINS called for public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
EDWARD JAMES, Anchorage, testified in favor of the bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DAN  STICKLE,  Economist for  the  Department  of Revenue  (DOR),                                                               
offered to answer questions regarding the fiscal note.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT HALL, Vice  President of the Houston  Chamber of Commerce,                                                               
testified  in favor  of  the  bill. He  thanked  the sponsor  for                                                               
adding the changes that the city suggested.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:09:03 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. HALL  recognized the  hesitancy of  the committee  to passing                                                               
the bill and  suggested that they put the question  on the ballot                                                               
and allow the public to vote on it.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
LINK  FANNON,  City  Councilman, Houston,  Alaska,  testified  in                                                               
support  of the  bill.  He  thanked the  sponsor  for adding  the                                                               
suggested  changes to  the bill,  such as  local control  and the                                                               
super-majority vote.  He advised the  committee that the  City of                                                               
Houston  was  taking  an  economic approach  to  the  bill.  Card                                                               
playing is  happening currently and a  lot of money is  going out                                                               
of the  country, he said.  The State  of Alaska needs  to enforce                                                               
consumer  protection and  allow citizens  to play  in their  home                                                               
state in a safe environment.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:12:02 AM                                                                                                                   
RUTH BLANCHARD, City Council Member  of Houston, Alaska testified                                                               
in  favor  of  the  bill.  The  bill  provides  for  a  safe  and                                                               
responsible way for people to enjoy playing poker, she asserted.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ROSEMARY BURNETT,  Deputy Mayor of Houston,  testified in support                                                               
of the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:15:09 AM                                                                                                                   
MELISSA  PARKER,  representing   the  Alaska  Poker  Association,                                                               
testified in support  of the bill. She said  her organization has                                                               
been approached  by several organizations,  such as  churches and                                                               
the police,  who asked them  to help organize  poker tournaments.                                                               
She said  HB 272 would help  people stay in Alaska  to play poker                                                               
and that the money would stay in state.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GENE THERRIAULT  asked Ms.  Parker whether  she had  any                                                               
reason  to believe  that  people  wouldn't still  go  out of  the                                                               
state, play  online, or play  in back  rooms. He took  issue with                                                               
the claim that the bill would keep money in the state.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PARKER said  it wouldn't  prevent Internet  gaming but  that                                                               
Alaskan's would stay in state  to play in the tournaments, rather                                                               
than going out of state to play.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked Ms. Parker  a reasonable parameter of loss-                                                               
limits.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER said that would be  self-imposed and so it would be an                                                               
individual decision.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:19:34 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR SEEKINS asked  Ms. Parker her thoughts of  whether the card                                                               
rooms would morph into rooms  full of gaming, including bingo and                                                               
pull-tabs.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER said  it would be up to the  municipality but it could                                                               
be likely.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS asked her impression of  the cost of opening a card                                                               
room.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. PARKER  said someone would  have to be  wealthy to open  up a                                                               
card room.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:22:16 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR SEEKINS  closed public testimony  and asked  for discussion                                                               
among committee members. He asked for the will of the committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS recognized that there  was no will of the committee                                                               
and he held the bill in committee.                                                                                              

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